...and Echan is happy to agree with Mobius. This is the one problem with wiki, or any writing--it is so hard to get subtle meaning from the written word. meaning has so much to do with tonality and the voice that a spot of writing can be interpreted so many ways. I was totally agreeing with you about the Leary thing, but I don't think I was able to get it across. Anyhow, i like Moksha's post about love, if you haven't looked at it, look at it! i was completely in awe yesterday of my love for both you and Moksha as I watched many syncronicities unfolding. You are both wonderful beings and I feel so fortunate that my tiny, insignificant time on this planet has magically coincided with both of yours.